Reply To: How are you making that call?

    Dave Johnson
    Participant
    first, the given Answer is worded poorly (closing in on “wrong”).  the runner is not out when he enters the dugout.  once he enters the dugout, he can not return to the field as a live runner in any way.  but he’s not out and the run scores unless and until the defense makes a legal appeal.  once they do make a legal appeal, the runner is out and the run is erased.

    hopefully the defense knows how to make a proper appeal by tagging the plate while appealing verbally that the runner missed the plate, then none of this nonsense happens.

    but let’s say that the runner, having entered dead ball territory, now returns to the field in an attempt to touch the plate while the defense is still playing on other runners… if the defense ignores him, fine, play on.  but if in so doing he draws a throw that may allow other runners to advance, that’s interference by a retired runner (or interference by a teammate if you prefer that terminology).  kill the play and send the other runners back to the bases occupied at time of interference; if a runner was in a rundown, you’re probably calling that runner out for interference by a teammate.

    But still, what to do about the appeal?  if playing under a live-ball appeal ruleset, if you’ve killed the play because the retired runner is interfering with play, there has still been no legal appeal so the runner is still not out and the run is still on the board.  so you’ll have to go through the procedure of making the ball live again with a batter in the box and the pitcher engaged with the rubber, and then see if the defense manages to make the appeal without screwing up.

    if it’s a dead-ball appeal ruleset, as soon as you’ve killed the play and anyone on the defense makes clear they’re appealing that the runner missed the plate, he’s out and the run comes off the board, easy-peasy.

    but agreed, this whole thing can get messy

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