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- July 8, 2021 at 12:01 am
- in reply to: Left Handed Pick Off at 1st
HighandinParticipantNFHS Rules set 6.2.4b says “failing to step with the non-pivot foot directly toward a base (occupied or unoccupied) when throwing or feinting there in an attempt to put out, or drive back a runner; or throwing or feinting to any unoccupied base when it is not an attempt to put out or drive back a runner;” No mention of the 45 degrees. HOWEVER, when you go to the Casebook, they essentially define ‘directly’ as to the 1B side of a 45 degree line; “To comply with the requirement to ‘step directly toward’, F1 must step to the first-bse side of a 45-degree angle between center of the pitcher’s plate and between home and first base.” I think NCAA has it in their rule set (45 degrees). Not 100% about OBR, but I don’t think they do. They go with the ‘did he step directly’.- July 7, 2021 at 11:35 pm
- in reply to: Is this runner interference?
HighandinParticipantI’d have an out for interference:NFHS Rule 8-4-2g intentionally interferes with a throw or a thrown ball; or he hinders a fielder on his initial attempt to field a batted ball.
- June 22, 2021 at 2:46 pm
- in reply to: Retouching bases after an out of play award of bases
HighandinParticipantIt reads to me like he was between second and third: “The centre fielder makes a diving catch as the runner is between 2nd base and 3rd base. The runner does not see the catch and continues to round the bases.” However, I think the award is still from 1B since he had not ‘legally acquired’ 2B.- June 22, 2021 at 2:38 pm
- in reply to: Retouching bases after an out of play award of bases
HighandinParticipantThat’s my thought too Stan:<strong class=”art”>8-2-5 If a runner who misses any base (including home plate) or leaves a base too early, desires to return to touch the base, he must do so immediately. If the ball becomes dead and the runner is on or beyond a succeeding base, he cannot return to the missed base and, therefore, is subject to being declared out upon proper and successful appeal. (NFHS)
- April 28, 2021 at 11:03 pm
- in reply to: Running to First
HighandinParticipantI think <strong class=”art”>7-3-1 applies here, in that he can step out since it’s a passed ball and while it doesn’t specify where he can step out to, it does specify how long he has to be back in the box; 20 sec once the pitcher has the ball or it’s a called strike. I also disagree he can run to first on every pitch. 7-3-1 specifies when a batter can leave the box. If it is one of those, well, he’s on ‘the clock’. If it’s not one of those, and he’s taking off, then I’m thinking I have either a delay of game or a ‘travesty of the game’ issue. I’ll have to ponder that situation some more.- June 20, 2020 at 9:13 pm
- in reply to: Batter steps out of batters box
HighandinParticipantZachary, thanks for the catch… I meant “ball, vice HBP”. NOT really sure what I was thinking when I typed that… or ‘not thinking’?- June 10, 2020 at 7:26 pm
- in reply to: Batter steps out of batters box
HighandinParticipantFirst, apologies Greg! I screwed up on my scroll up!I’ve called Babe Ruth games, using OBR, and have rung up strikes on guys who stepped out…and there it has to be a strike… and people were NOT happy. I’ve also rung up a strike for not avoiding and allowing the ball to hit you. I can only guess at the howling that would go on if 1. guy steps out with two feet and you award 2 strikes or, and this was the one I was really interested in, 2. guy steps out with one or two feet and gets drilled and you award a strike(s) for a pitch that is outside the batter’s box!
- June 10, 2020 at 9:43 am
- in reply to: Batter steps out of batters box
HighandinParticipantI’m interested in the unintentionally HBP situation. The books says:
<p id=”721″><strong class=”art”>7-2-1 A strike is charged to the batter when:</p>
5. a batter delays (6-2-4d-1If the pitcher, with a runner on base, stops or hesitates in his delivery because the batter steps out of the box (a) with one foot or (b) with both feet or (c) holds up his hand to request “Time,” it shall not be a balk. In (a) and (c), there is no penalty on either the batter or the pitcher. The umpire shall call “Time” and begin play anew. In (b), a strike shall be called on the batter for violation of 7-3-1. In (a), (b) and (c), if the pitcher legally delivers the ball, it shall be called a strike and the ball remains live.
There is no provision in here, or anywhere I can find, on what happens if the batter is HBP in this situation.
Greg posted:
“1. The batter is not granted time, steps out of the box and is unintentionally hit by the pitch:
Dead ball ball unless it’s ball 4 in which case he takes his base & no runners may advance unless forced.”
I’m good with the dead ball part, cause the guy got drilled, however I’m not OK with the “unless it’s ball 4” since location doesn’t matter in NFHS unlike OBR. It’s a penalty.
That said, does the awarding of the penalty for stepping out override the awarding of a base for getting hit?